XII vs Thorens TD-160 Super
The TD-160 Super's wow & flutter is 0.060% against the XII's 0.090%, its platter weight 3.18 kg (7 lbs) against 1.73 kg (4 lbs), and its platter material Zinc_alloy against Glass. Both share drive type (Belt).
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The Systemdek XII is a premium belt-drive turntable designed with a 3-point suspended sub-chassis to isolate vibrations and enhance audio fidelity. It incorporates a heavy steel plate sub-chassis reinforced by aluminium extrusion, and is driven by a 24-pole precision synchronous high torque motor mounted on an anti-vibration assembly. The platter is typically glass, weighing approximately 1.73kg and 10mm thick, with a high-density lambs wool record mat. It supports two speeds, 33.33 and 45 rpm, with manual speed change. The design emphasizes low wow and flutter (0.09% DIN), minimal speed drift, and low rumble (78/77 dB DIN weighted), delivering clean, detailed, and dynamic sound reproduction. The Systemdek XII is regarded as a classic audiophile turntable, often paired with high-quality tonearms such as the Profile or Kuzma 4POINT for optimal performance. It is a vintage model, no longer in production, but highly sought after for its build quality and sonic characteristics.
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The TD-160 Super's wow & flutter is 0.060% against the XII's 0.090%, its platter weight 3.18 kg (7 lbs) against 1.73 kg (4 lbs), and its platter material Zinc_alloy against Glass. Both share drive type (Belt).
The MMF-7's wow & flutter is 0.080% against the XII's 0.090%, its platter weight 2.7 kg (6 lbs) against 1.73 kg (4 lbs), and its weight 10.9 kg (24 lbs) against 10 kg (22 lbs). Both share drive type (Belt).
The TD-320 MkII's wow & flutter is 0.035% against the XII's 0.090%, its platter weight 3.1 kg (7 lbs) against 1.73 kg (4 lbs), and its platter material Zinc_alloy against Glass. Both share drive type (Belt).
The Alva ST's wow & flutter is 0.120% against the XII's 0.090%, its platter weight 0.6453 kg (1 lbs) against 1.73 kg (4 lbs), and its platter material Aluminum against Glass. Both share drive type (Belt).
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